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		<title>By: K H</title>
		<link>http://kentnerburn.com/archives/313/comment-page-1#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>K H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are scraping by because of too much government involvement, and not enough which is what this health care bill is about more government, more ways for the government to steal from people who work for a living, regardless what they do or how much they make. They all work for their money and they don&#039;t do it to have the government raiders swoop down from the plains to ravage their finances. The government is stealing 25% to 40% of most people&#039;s pay. That is around 50 to 100 dollars a month the government is stealing from people. What do you think the people that you lay awake thinking about could do with an extra 30 to 70 dollars a month. 

And if this thing passes, are you going to lay awake at night worrying about the elderly who need hip or knee or some other surgery, or lacks the energy to go and do because they neeed a pacemaker but won&#039;t be able to get it because a government bean counter considers them to be not worth the cost and would rather spend money on a younger person, leaving the elderly to languish in suffering? The young people you lay awake worrying about are not suffering and their medical needs are not as pressing as the elderly&#039;s medical requirements who you apparently don&#039;t care about. The elderly, which may be you in the not too distant future based on your picture, are the ones who will suffer if your wish for government run health care passes. Obama has said so when he said he believed that a woman&#039;s mother should be given pain medication and should be denied a pacemaker. It&#039;s obvious Obama and the Democrats, and Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama&#039;s top health care adviser, approve of withholding care to the elderly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are scraping by because of too much government involvement, and not enough which is what this health care bill is about more government, more ways for the government to steal from people who work for a living, regardless what they do or how much they make. They all work for their money and they don&#8217;t do it to have the government raiders swoop down from the plains to ravage their finances. The government is stealing 25% to 40% of most people&#8217;s pay. That is around 50 to 100 dollars a month the government is stealing from people. What do you think the people that you lay awake thinking about could do with an extra 30 to 70 dollars a month. </p>
<p>And if this thing passes, are you going to lay awake at night worrying about the elderly who need hip or knee or some other surgery, or lacks the energy to go and do because they neeed a pacemaker but won&#8217;t be able to get it because a government bean counter considers them to be not worth the cost and would rather spend money on a younger person, leaving the elderly to languish in suffering? The young people you lay awake worrying about are not suffering and their medical needs are not as pressing as the elderly&#8217;s medical requirements who you apparently don&#8217;t care about. The elderly, which may be you in the not too distant future based on your picture, are the ones who will suffer if your wish for government run health care passes. Obama has said so when he said he believed that a woman&#8217;s mother should be given pain medication and should be denied a pacemaker. It&#8217;s obvious Obama and the Democrats, and Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama&#8217;s top health care adviser, approve of withholding care to the elderly.</p>
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		<title>By: K H</title>
		<link>http://kentnerburn.com/archives/313/comment-page-1#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>K H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They are, with few exceptions, dancing on life’s tightwire without a net — they do not have and cannot afford health insurance. It’s not that they don’t want it. They can’t afford it. The simple cost of living — food, rent, college or college loans, daycare, cars and car insurance — are just too much. They scrape, they dream, and they survive.&quot;

Maybe if the government would stop stealing people&#039;s money for a bureaucrat spend on a pet pork project or give to someone else, they would have more money to spend on themselves and their needs. And if the government didn&#039;t steal a third of the money companies earn for more government-serving/self-serving programs programs, and end the companies have more money to grow. Barney Frank believes companies exist only to provide him money to steal and give to someone else. 

Kent, you have a fundamentally flawed view on how this government was designed by the founders of the country. This country&#039;s government was designed by the founders to be different than all the other countries in that the government only takes care of basic things like defense and light interstate regulation, just enough to keep it organized, and to basically allow total freedom for the people to carry on their lives as they saw fit, as the Constitution states it: 

&quot;We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity&quot;

&quot;General welfare&quot;, not take care of every little problem in your life. There is nothing in there that says the government must provide health insurance, or even Medicare. 

But, Kent, the argument criticizing Medicare falls because you can&#039;t admit that Medicare is failing because it can&#039;t be afforded and also, that the legislation you approve of, that the Democrats want to pass will reduce Medicare benefits, NOT MAKE THEM BETTER. You claim you care so much, but then you want old people to suffer by having their Medicare benefits cut and approve of withholding care to the elderly, as Obama said is appropriate at the townhall meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are, with few exceptions, dancing on life’s tightwire without a net — they do not have and cannot afford health insurance. It’s not that they don’t want it. They can’t afford it. The simple cost of living — food, rent, college or college loans, daycare, cars and car insurance — are just too much. They scrape, they dream, and they survive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe if the government would stop stealing people&#8217;s money for a bureaucrat spend on a pet pork project or give to someone else, they would have more money to spend on themselves and their needs. And if the government didn&#8217;t steal a third of the money companies earn for more government-serving/self-serving programs programs, and end the companies have more money to grow. Barney Frank believes companies exist only to provide him money to steal and give to someone else. </p>
<p>Kent, you have a fundamentally flawed view on how this government was designed by the founders of the country. This country&#8217;s government was designed by the founders to be different than all the other countries in that the government only takes care of basic things like defense and light interstate regulation, just enough to keep it organized, and to basically allow total freedom for the people to carry on their lives as they saw fit, as the Constitution states it: </p>
<p>&#8220;We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;General welfare&#8221;, not take care of every little problem in your life. There is nothing in there that says the government must provide health insurance, or even Medicare. </p>
<p>But, Kent, the argument criticizing Medicare falls because you can&#8217;t admit that Medicare is failing because it can&#8217;t be afforded and also, that the legislation you approve of, that the Democrats want to pass will reduce Medicare benefits, NOT MAKE THEM BETTER. You claim you care so much, but then you want old people to suffer by having their Medicare benefits cut and approve of withholding care to the elderly, as Obama said is appropriate at the townhall meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: K H</title>
		<link>http://kentnerburn.com/archives/313/comment-page-1#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>K H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, the bottom line is that in the United States it is not the government&#039;s job to take care of you. And if you think the government should provide you with food and clothes and a house, too? You need food, clothes and a house more than you need health insurance. 

And to act like there isn&#039;t rationing and there aren&#039;t long lines in countries that have government run health care is being intellectually dishonest. Why do you think the hospitals at the Canadian border see so many Canadians? If it is so good in Canada, with government run health care, why do they come here at all? The truth is that it is NOT that good. 

It sounds like to me you are just one of those people who want a hand-out from the government and want the government to be your nanny because that is the crux of your whole argument, that you just want the government to provide for your health care - to sum it up, take care of you. I bet you have not read any of the bills that are being proposed and are just blindly following whatever Obama says even though he hasn&#039;t produced a bill. Read the bill so that you know what you are talking about. And I bet all you watch is CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and all you read is Newsweek, Time, and the Associated Press and believe they are telling you the truth when in fact they are just reporting what the Democrats are saying. If you haven&#039;t figured that out, I wonder about your intelligence. Obama answered a woman in a townhall saying that he didn&#039;t think the government shouldn&#039;t give her elderly mother a pacemaker but instead, just send her off to die with a handfull of pain medication. You approve of that? Obama and the Democrats want to fine you if you choose not to get their approved health insurance and send you to prison if you don&#039;t pay. The bills before congress authorizes the government to deny care. And it makes private insurance illegal, contrary to the Obama lies. If you change your private company policy for any reason, they have to cancel your policy and you have to take the government policy. YOU WILL HAVE NO CHOICE. It will be ILLEGAL to have a private policy. You will have to take the government policy whether you LIKE IT OR NOT. That is in the legislation the Democrats want to pass. They want to put private insurance companies out of business so that you will have no choice where now, if you don&#039;t like your policy or your premium, you can change companies. Not anymore after what you and the Democrats want to pass. WAKE UP and start thinking and stop blindly following whatever Obama says, Obama who has broken every campaign promise he made during the campaign and who promised that unemployment would not go above 8%. Nothing he has said has turned out to be true. WAKE UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, the bottom line is that in the United States it is not the government&#8217;s job to take care of you. And if you think the government should provide you with food and clothes and a house, too? You need food, clothes and a house more than you need health insurance. </p>
<p>And to act like there isn&#8217;t rationing and there aren&#8217;t long lines in countries that have government run health care is being intellectually dishonest. Why do you think the hospitals at the Canadian border see so many Canadians? If it is so good in Canada, with government run health care, why do they come here at all? The truth is that it is NOT that good. </p>
<p>It sounds like to me you are just one of those people who want a hand-out from the government and want the government to be your nanny because that is the crux of your whole argument, that you just want the government to provide for your health care &#8211; to sum it up, take care of you. I bet you have not read any of the bills that are being proposed and are just blindly following whatever Obama says even though he hasn&#8217;t produced a bill. Read the bill so that you know what you are talking about. And I bet all you watch is CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and all you read is Newsweek, Time, and the Associated Press and believe they are telling you the truth when in fact they are just reporting what the Democrats are saying. If you haven&#8217;t figured that out, I wonder about your intelligence. Obama answered a woman in a townhall saying that he didn&#8217;t think the government shouldn&#8217;t give her elderly mother a pacemaker but instead, just send her off to die with a handfull of pain medication. You approve of that? Obama and the Democrats want to fine you if you choose not to get their approved health insurance and send you to prison if you don&#8217;t pay. The bills before congress authorizes the government to deny care. And it makes private insurance illegal, contrary to the Obama lies. If you change your private company policy for any reason, they have to cancel your policy and you have to take the government policy. YOU WILL HAVE NO CHOICE. It will be ILLEGAL to have a private policy. You will have to take the government policy whether you LIKE IT OR NOT. That is in the legislation the Democrats want to pass. They want to put private insurance companies out of business so that you will have no choice where now, if you don&#8217;t like your policy or your premium, you can change companies. Not anymore after what you and the Democrats want to pass. WAKE UP and start thinking and stop blindly following whatever Obama says, Obama who has broken every campaign promise he made during the campaign and who promised that unemployment would not go above 8%. Nothing he has said has turned out to be true. WAKE UP!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Klate</title>
		<link>http://kentnerburn.com/archives/313/comment-page-1#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Klate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading Neither Wolf Nor Dog I decided to look for a little more info about you, Kent Nerburn, and I come upon this little essay, which holds the truth of this public moment, simply, clearly, eloquently offered.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Neither Wolf Nor Dog I decided to look for a little more info about you, Kent Nerburn, and I come upon this little essay, which holds the truth of this public moment, simply, clearly, eloquently offered.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://kentnerburn.com/archives/313/comment-page-1#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent, I appreciate your thoughts on health care but I&#039;m afraid the bad guy is Congress, not people like me, nor the insurance companies nor big pharma.  With the federal government not having the money to fix medicare or medicaid or social security, it now wants to add a new multi-billion dollar benefit program.  Unwise.  the only way to do that is to tax me more, squeezing more blood from the turnip that already been tapped out.  There just are not enough &quot;rich&quot; to make a difference even if you take all their money. All current problems are the result of government getting too greedy and taxing the living dayulights out the economy.  The discipline needed to get out of this rut is found in Adam Smith and Milton Friedman.  That comes first.  Then when the lessons are well-learned, better, more economical health care somewhere down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, I appreciate your thoughts on health care but I&#8217;m afraid the bad guy is Congress, not people like me, nor the insurance companies nor big pharma.  With the federal government not having the money to fix medicare or medicaid or social security, it now wants to add a new multi-billion dollar benefit program.  Unwise.  the only way to do that is to tax me more, squeezing more blood from the turnip that already been tapped out.  There just are not enough &#8220;rich&#8221; to make a difference even if you take all their money. All current problems are the result of government getting too greedy and taxing the living dayulights out the economy.  The discipline needed to get out of this rut is found in Adam Smith and Milton Friedman.  That comes first.  Then when the lessons are well-learned, better, more economical health care somewhere down the road.</p>
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